Curse

Fenrik de Arvis · Aug 27, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

/signed in all points

Miss Puddles · Aug 27, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

/signed on all parts.

the pvp rank requirement is rediculously high, and i only get a nice little sentence about my "i'm very important".

i don't get to see the armor i am wearing.

i can't use my minis on other characters, nor share all my minis across all my characters.

you have to have upgraded armor on a hero to display it, but they are wearing their basic armor in the monument?? my "animal companion" is neither a bear, lynx, or wolf.

this whole thing just needs some tweaking.

william1975 · Aug 27, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

/signed for all the improvements as suggested in the OP

I Dislike the Minipet monument for not being account based and because it customises the minipet, simply how is anyone goign to get the super rare ones nobody will sell them now

dislike the armour simply becuase it isnt my character armour

dislike the titles because im pve and dont have any pvp ones anywhere near level 9, some havent even got to level 1 yet.

weapons is awful because i dont even knwo what weapons it will take but obviously nto my gold ones or greens so far

Hellblazer · Aug 27, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

/signed

I agree with all the points, especially the PvE titles one! Ive busted my behind to get the titles i have in PvE and we cant display them? rubbish!

Saint Troy · Aug 27, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

/signed.

As it stands, the HOM will not be getting any use from me.

Shame, really, as I thought everything else about the preview was absolutely excellent.

Mineria · Aug 27, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

/signed
PvE titles should count as well. Only maxed pve titles though.
Max for PvP titles seems a bit harsh.
Would be nice if I could add my collection of greens.
Elite armor sets with different pieces, displayed with a statue that looks like your character. Not all use a complete set, helms are just to ugly for some of them ^^
Minipets should be account based.

Nomme Moon · Aug 27, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

/signed

Definitely can say something they wanted to be the main selling point of this expansion turned out (in my opinion) to be one of, if not the worst selling point. I can honestly say I was shocked to see the restrictions forced on minipets, weapons, and especially titles. I was also shocked as well as VERY disappointed to see that when I added my Obsidian armor that I spent so much on, I didn't even get to see my character, let alone my profession or even my own GENDER.

Nabru Yar · Aug 27, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

/signed

personally, I found the HoM underwhelming, especially after all the hype

Jiao Yang · Aug 27, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

It is possible that one or two people may have reached Rank 7 Champion title, but no one will reach rank 9 before GW2 comes out.

Also, I've heard that you can only display weapons that you find in GW:EN? So.. 2+ years of collecting rare and valuable items wasted when GW2 comes out..

Furthermore, I've found that it is in no way clear what we will actually be able to do with these achievements. Can we retrieve items/titles/armour that we put up, or is the whole HoM just for showing off what you achieved?

Oukanna · Aug 27, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

/signed

I was dissaponted with the HOM :-( charactor basing it was a bad idea, also what about all those people who worked hard on protector titles and explorer titles, also vanquisher and all those PVE things ?? You encourage us to get these titles by changing the favour system to title chaisng and you do not reward us in the end?? That is not fair at all.

I hope changes will take place, you may loose a lot of fans if not :-(

Alana Gravebed · Aug 27, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

/signed

in all points, it was said a lot here but.

Armor: not the same as I am wearing?? (I like the idea of storage for them in HoM)
Titles: ??? no PvE can be shown ??? a small footnote...is GW2 only PvP oriented??? then i won't bother buying... all in all, we (PvEers)should be recognized now that WE work to obtain favor...(which I like better)
Pets: wow... what a disappointment (I like the idea of a storage for them too)

other stuff in HoM... i did not go further I was looking forward to those 3 and i was extremely disappointed. Please Anet, or whoever, remember you use that HoM as a selling hype for GW2, with this HoM, right now, I changed my status from "Buying GW2" to...."Not sure to Buy... have to see more"

Sidheyuna Aetheris · Aug 27, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38

/signed on all accounts.

I can't express how disappointed I was with the HoM. Loved the rest of the gameplay, but the Hall of Monuments was such a major letdown that it cast a shadow over my excitement for the whole weekend....and GW2. I don't mind that minipets become customized....but I do mind that it's character-based. I've been collecting, sure, but I don't really want to have to get duplicates. >< And, yeah, I've been working hard to get I Have Many Leather-Bound Books.....but not just so THAT would be the only PvE title represented there. All in all, big disappointment.

faf · Aug 27, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

/signed

Every single thing listed is true. Only the armor thing is not such a big flaw, but then yourself you told it was not a big flaw. The PvE issue is a HUGE flaw and DEFINATLY needs to be fixed. I am working hard on Legendary Defender Of Ascalon, Legendary Survivor, Legendary Defender, etc, and the result: I cannot even display these titles, if not even for prestige. Keep the HoM that way anet and you lost a customer for GW2.

jiggerjay · Aug 27, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

i been playing guild wars now since shortly after the release of prohpecies, just over 2 years now, hom promised so much, and it delivered so little.

i understand that it is a monumentous job, but someone has messed it right up, i was under the impression that it was account based. then i had to unlock tapestries to add insult to injury.

the armour shown does not represent the armour i put in, specially warrior luxon elite and the recentish knights armour.

the weapon thing pissed me off as well, i have 3 perfect swords customised, which i was hoping to put in (crystaline, fellblade and collosal smitar.) and all the other expensive weapons i have got amount o nothing in there.

the title track thing is a bit awol as well, as it only resonds to max or very near max titles...... bad decision.

now why would anet go and make minipets customised ? on one side i can understand that it stops people borrowing a complete set off a friend to make their hom look complete, but on the other hand a lot of people make ALOT of money trading mininpets, i have recently picked up a few bargins and sold them on for a nice little profit. but uncustomised prices will shoot up in 3-4 months i think, it will instablize the market a bit.

dont remember much about the others that i could bitch about, but i dont think i will be investing time in the hom unless something is done, it was absolute gash.

Yawgmoth · Aug 27, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

/signed

All the points are valid and I sign all. The most important one, above everything else is the absolute NEED to make the whole HoM account based.

It should encourage playing the game more and trying different challenges, and acomplishing various achievements. But what it does is forcing grinding, repeating and doing things really unwanted.

It's not about making things easier or harder to achieve. Legendary Vanquisher or Cartographer or Survivor is not easier because you want to do it on another character. Obsidian Armor costs about the same no matter which of your characters you make it for. Making players HAVE TO do everything on just ONE character if they want a completed monument is ridiculous beyond imagination.

Best example - the Armors monument!
To complete it you have to make like 13+ ascended armor sets for just one character! No matter if you like how they look, no matter that you won't be using most of them at all, that you'll need a separate mule character or 2 just for the armors...
Why not let players play the game how they want and let them craft all those armors for different characters that are going to actually use them, let players pick the ones they like for whichever professions they like the looks... the cost and challenge to get them remains the same!

Also, a new feature needs to be added to the game - Customization for the account. Primary uses - minipets in HoM and the 'red' tournament reward items (obviosuly pvp chars only). Even though there are more possibilities, only those 2 uses for it are actually needed.

Shayne Hawke · Aug 28, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

/signed

From all the talk about the Hall this weekend, I haven't heard enough positive things from it to outweigh all the bad rap that it's getting.

All the suggestions listed as of now seem like excellent ideas to follow for improving the Hall of Monuments.

Though, what sort of worries me is how titles will be claimed when GW2 is released. I'm curious whether titles earned on different characters in GW will be available to the same character in GW2, or just getting titles from one character. Even worse would be only allowing people of the same name to claim titles from their ancestors.

But that's not to be worried about for another couple dozen months.

Frostnova · Aug 28, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

For the weapons, I would realllly want to put any weapons i want in there instead of just greens from GW:EN. Good examples would be Tormented Weapons, Urgoz Weapons, Deep Weapons, Malynx Weapons, Ele Swords etc. these weapons are harder to get for some players, so i would rly want to see i can put mine up there

For the armors: like many ppl said, mixed armors are rly common for most players so being able to put ANY armor up there would be nice including maybe a smaller monument for festival masks. Example - 1k Kurz Monk > 15k Kurz Monk

my two cents

and /signed x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 again

wonderwyrm · Aug 28, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Already signed, but thought id add the fact that you need to upgrade heros with armor pieces is retarded. For the sole reason that even if they are upgraded they display in there original outfit anyway.

Theus · Aug 28, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

The Hall of Monuments need Mannequin's and Weapon Racks that allow players to display whatever the hell they want.

And Pets should be customized to Accounts.Not characters.Thats simply retarded.

t_the_nihilst · Aug 28, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

/signed, provided they weren't planning on changing it when the game goes live.

HoM is my only major disappointment, GWEN-wise.